Saturday, November 23, 2024

401K Gold IRA Joke

The newest investment strategy is the gold 401k rollovers.  The first thing to remember about a 401k plan, is that the gold cannot be physically in your possession. 

The first rule of buying gold, is that you take possession of it. If you can’t touch it, you do not own it.  Gold is not a retirement plan; it is a hedge against a country ruining its currency.

 If your currency is stable, you can buy gold with no problem. If it is unstable, gold will not be available for purchase at any reasonably price.  

 The big thing about retirement as you age, is that it creeps up on you slowly. Your concepts have to change as you age.  Gold as a hedge against inflation at age 40 with a life expectancy of 80 is different than if you are 78 wondering if you’ll live to see 98. 

 If you are young, gold is probably a better investment than a 401k.  The problem is, most people cannot save for retirement at a young age, they will spend it.  The 401k keeps them from spending it; but that is what the government wants. They can borrow your hard dollars today for inflated dollars 40 years later.  50 years ago, cigarettes were 25 cents a pack, now they are $8.50.   So, to save for retirement if you are young, with this systemic inflation, get ahead of the curve and buy gold.

 I digress, a 401k gold IRA will have costs:  the gold purchase commission, insurance and storage fees.  On top of that, suppose you sell the gold at a higher price?  Get ready, you have a 1099 for appreciation, coming your way at tax time.

 Another thing not mentioned, is the integrity of the company offering the gold IRA.  In Europe a while back the gold depository couldn’t pay the depositors in gold, they didn’t have it.  They paid them in cash. Most of these investment firms can buy an amount of gold that covers withdrawals. The rest is invested for financial return.

 The thing you need to realize about a 401k fund is that they don’t have to invest your funds as designate. They do have to pay on your investment as it would have performed. If you have one, how do they deliver the gold bullion to you? Think about that!

 Figure that you have 400k in your 401k.  In the last 5 years, its buying power has dropped to 200k.  That is kind of upsetting. What I can buy cost twice as much and it is still locked into the 401K.  Technically you still have 400k to retire on.  If you had put it in gold 10 years ago, you’d still have the same amount of gold, but its price has doubled. You cannot walk out of a 401K you are stuck with it; you can’t sell it all at one time and get out of it, without horrendous tax consequences.

  We are not talking about investment here; we are talking about government-initiated inflation.  Inflation is a tax by government. The government cannot tax people who have no money, they can only tax people who have savings. They can directly tax your savings or indirectly print dollars that make your savings worth less. My 400K retirement now has the buying power of 200K today. Kind of sucks, doesn’t it?

 To preserve your savings, you need to liquidate your 401k in reasonable increments, and buy gold or platinum.

 Remember one thing when the government runs out of money, they have only one place to go to, the people that have saved money. If you have no money, the government doesn’t give a damn about you.

 Gold, Silver and Platinum maintain value. Right now, everyone is interested in a gold IRA.  Figure this though, an investment in platinum is just as good as gold and it is half its price, and four times rarer.  Hmmm ---of course the obvious escapes most of us, go figure!



4 comments:

Sackerson said...

I agree. You only know what you've got if you've got it. Didn't fractional reserve banking start with people 'looking after your gold' for you?

Jim in San Marcos said...

Hi Sack

There is a lot of that going around. Investors aren't going to make a run on their gold retirement fund. The taxes would eat them alive. So, the Gold institution is like a fat cat that knows that the dog's leash isn't long enough to reach them. They probably have 80% invested in stocks, and the rest in gold and cash. That keeps the storage and security costs to an absurd minimum. All the investor gets is a bill for storage and security, and the dude running the ruse gets the interest on the investors savings. Not a bad deal!

I might just get some lead ingots and some gold spray paint and start my own gold investment fund.

Anonymous said...

Hi Jim,

I have gold, silver and platinum. I have water, food and ammo. But I also have an open mind, and I have crypto. What are your thoughts on crypto?

Jim in San Marcos said...

Hi Anon 12--14

Crypto scares me. Out of all of the mining there are about 2 million units of Bit Coin left to mine. The resources being used to mine them is very extensive. These crypto farms are running hundreds of servers and some countries are starting to regulate how much energy these entities can consume. Very few people have lost money on Bit Coin to date. Plus the 1% transaction cost keep the ball in play.

At some point the game has to end. The current value of the coin is determined by the last sale. When you buy something like gold, it has tangibility to it. The only thing Bit Coin has is its appreciation in value (the thrill of appreciation). When it stops rising, and the number of available Bit Coins drop towards zero, the mining farms will drop exponentially.

The real trouble with Bit Coin is getting out of it. If everyone decides to take a profit and leave at the same time, the exit will be very obvious to the people converting the Bit Coin. You could be left with nothing.

As manias go, you always sell to the bigger fool. Issac Newton got ruined by the South Sea Bubble. He made a fortune on it and got out, and then later, doubled down and lost everything.

The South Sea Bubble and the Tulip mania of the 1600's are a reflection of what was very real in the past. The question they had to answer, "Was it worth it?"