Buy a house, for 600k in California pay a property tax of $6,000 a year. Buy a car for 40K. Pay $4,000 in sales tax. Buy $10,000 of taxable goods add on another $1,000. Income tax on 100K add on about $18,000. Social Security and Medicare, add about another $10,000. Then there is a gasoline tax, telephone tax, electricity tax. The tax people pretty much know where you live.
So for a 100k salary, with husband and wife working, looking at the chart below, after taxes, you’ve got 71K. Subtract the other items on the list and what’s left over---about $6,000.
Surprisingly the third group living at the poverty level on my spread sheet seems to have the ability to get by almost as well as the middle group earning 50K. Food stamps are a big item, as well as one adult being able to stay home to manage the children without having to pay for day care. With the medical benefits, there is almost an assumed incentive for larger families.
What can we learn from all of this? First off, I should probably be shot for the quite arbitrary excel spread sheet. I kind of modeled the spread sheet to my family even though we don’t have expenses for student loans, car payments or day care. Of course having a son going to Berkeley is kind of a wash. The thing that impressed me was the realization, that 100K of income in California is not upper middle class. Let's face it, what do I have left to put in the bank for retirement? Our family's current earnings feel good only because we can remember making a lot less in the past.
When I was an engineering student, many a time we took a napkin and with some rudimentary drawings, we arrived at answers that pointed to problems that were not apparent. It’s obvious to me that in order to save more for retirement, there isn’t much left that our family can cut. It also appears, that many people in this country will when given time figure that health care and car insurance are not a necessary thing. This is probably where Obamacare will crash and burn on the economic highway. It is obvious that Congress needs to raise taxes, and I cannot afford to pay more, to support those now paying less. How do we as a nation determine what is each person’s fair share of taxes? Let's tax those that pay no taxes now and cut off benefits to those that have not paid taxes. The damn thing is that won't float, no Democrat would ever get reelected. Go Figure! I'm really getting tired of the free lunch program. This country was founded on "Pay as you go," not,--- "Uncle Sam will pay, if you're too poor."
So for a 100k salary, with husband and wife working, looking at the chart below, after taxes, you’ve got 71K. Subtract the other items on the list and what’s left over---about $6,000.
Figure the same scenario for a family of 4 with one wage earner making 50K. No new car, figure same amount on taxable goods of 1,000, zero income tax. Rent payment figure $20,000, no health or student loan. Take off 3k for utilities, forget car insurance and figure 4 k for gas and car repairs. The same 6k as rich people for food. No day care, the wife doesn’t work. Spending money after expenses is about 10K. The $10,000 is almost illusionary for this group, going to the dentist or one car accident is all it takes.
Surprisingly the third group living at the poverty level on my spread sheet seems to have the ability to get by almost as well as the middle group earning 50K. Food stamps are a big item, as well as one adult being able to stay home to manage the children without having to pay for day care. With the medical benefits, there is almost an assumed incentive for larger families.
What can we learn from all of this? First off, I should probably be shot for the quite arbitrary excel spread sheet. I kind of modeled the spread sheet to my family even though we don’t have expenses for student loans, car payments or day care. Of course having a son going to Berkeley is kind of a wash. The thing that impressed me was the realization, that 100K of income in California is not upper middle class. Let's face it, what do I have left to put in the bank for retirement? Our family's current earnings feel good only because we can remember making a lot less in the past.
When I was an engineering student, many a time we took a napkin and with some rudimentary drawings, we arrived at answers that pointed to problems that were not apparent. It’s obvious to me that in order to save more for retirement, there isn’t much left that our family can cut. It also appears, that many people in this country will when given time figure that health care and car insurance are not a necessary thing. This is probably where Obamacare will crash and burn on the economic highway. It is obvious that Congress needs to raise taxes, and I cannot afford to pay more, to support those now paying less. How do we as a nation determine what is each person’s fair share of taxes? Let's tax those that pay no taxes now and cut off benefits to those that have not paid taxes. The damn thing is that won't float, no Democrat would ever get reelected. Go Figure! I'm really getting tired of the free lunch program. This country was founded on "Pay as you go," not,--- "Uncle Sam will pay, if you're too poor."